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[keijournal]

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User: NKaito006

I'm gathering interest on the idea of a civilian run school, something where you can interact and learn from a real person instead of the NPCs here.

It probably wouldn't be a conventional school, but if you have skills you'd be willing to run a class on, or something you're interested in learning, talk about it here.

If it seems like it would be viable, I'll look into securing space at the school for classes. For now, if you decide you want to start holding classes, probably use a public space or your apartment.

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UN: NKaito006

[keijournal]

As an example, I can teach math and science up to a high school graduate level. How to use computers and semi-automatic weaponry.

un: sparkling

[ghostfromthemachine]

!!! I like this

I don't think I've got a lot of teachable skills but there are a lot of things I'm interested in. engineering maybe?

I'm good at helping with homework though ✨ and the library has a few study rooms that can be rented out

[keijournal]

I'm also more interested in learning. Compared to others here, my life is fairly ordinary. I assume there are plenty of people here with a unique education to share.

[ghostfromthemachine]

that's about the position I'm in and what I was thinking,
too.

[proficient_in_photoshop]

NKaito006, You can't just call people NPCs

[keijournal]

Are you kidding me.

[proficient_in_photoshop]

I could hold a practical class on life skills they completely do not teach you in school
although I dunno how it would translate here
I can also hold basic spiritual safety courses and anti-scam courses of course

I guess high school art or graphic design, if you want to get WILD (｀∇´)ゞ

[keijournal]

What would a curriculum on 'Life skills they don't teach in school' involve?

Obviously not how to do laundry.

[proficient_in_photoshop]

Eeeh off top of my head: Taxes, insurance, how to check a house before you buy it, bartering, setting up proxies, spackling walls, that kind of shit
I guarantee only adults will show up

[keijournal]

Huh.

All almost entirely non-applicable here.

[proficient_in_photoshop]

Not as non-applicable as art w

[keijournal]

Bitter?

You could've gotten a useful degree.

[proficient_in_photoshop]

Nah being a psychic is waaaaaaaay better (๑ゝڡ◕๑)
Graphic design IS useful, just boring
Useful But Boring 101

un: nonpareil

[supraliminally]

I take it you're not looking to learn high-school albegra, then. Or do you just not like NPCs?

[keijournal]

Getting a pointless education from a bunch of non-people is too many levels of fruitless performance for me.

I like learning, but when it comes to the school here, I might as well just read it all.

[supraliminally]

Oh? So it isn't the subject matter you object to, but the ones teaching it. Do you find them distasteful, or do you just think real people are better teachers?

[keijournal]

It's creepy. And also pointless. Again, I could just learn it from a book in that case.

[supraliminally]

What's creepy about it?

[keijournal]

It's a perfect example of the uncanny valley. They look and sound like people, and you can even mistake them for being 'real' up to a point, but they aren't capable of developing beyond what they are now, or providing information outside of a specific paradigm.

But if you're fine with that, obviously I'm not going to stop you from learning from them.

[supraliminally]

Of course not. Well, it's not as if I'm trying to convince you of anything either. It's just interesting to me.

All people are defined by their limits, after all. There are things they are capable of and things they are incapable of, things they know and things they don't know. To lack these things would be to lack an identity or personhood. So then, the only difference between a real person and and NPC is the scope. People and NPCs both have limits on both their development and their pool of knowledge, but there's some unspoken point, an invisible line. To fall short of that line means you're not a real person, but a drone. A simple program, deprived of the inherent dignity afforded to people.

I wonder if you might think of it as a spectrum, though. Like grades in a classroom. Anything below 60% is a failing grade, of course. But 90% is higher than 80% is higher than 70%, you know? Like one might increase their personhood by expanding beyond their limits.

[keijournal]

No, I follow you just fine.

In the same way, we are probably not more than simple lifeforms performing basic routines to whatever created this place. No different than bugs in a glass cage, dressed up with fake environmental props. It obviously has an interest in us, but just as obviously has power and scope beyond anything I will ever be able to conceptualize, much less compete with.

That's fine, honestly. There's always going to be a perspective broader than your own. Maybe ants and NPCs care about their own personhood as much as I care about mine.

But I still care about their personhood about as much as I would a simple computer program.

[supraliminally]

So in your view, rather than having any special trait that makes them inherently worth more, a person is just a more advanced version of less complex lifeforms. Sort of like - it's fine for humans to eat animals, since animals are mere beasts, lacking the capacity for what we call 'personhood.' But even humans might be equivalent to mere beasts from the perspective of a hypothetical superior lifeform. Or mere computer programs, if you prefer.

That's a somewhat surprising stance for a human to take, though, isn't it?

UN: Cantor

[exiled_honor]

[Responses will be very slow because how does technology.]

NPC?

[keijournal]

"Non-playable character". Basically something human shaped that serves a purpose in the world, but isn't 'real'.

[exiled_honor]

How do you judge what makes someone 'real'?